Another great season brought to you by our good friends at ICON Chiropractic and Wellness!
Draw times alternate 6:30 & 8:45 PM
Another great season brought to you by our good friends at ICON Chiropractic and Wellness!
Draw times alternate 6:30 & 8:45 PM
NEW!! Daytime Men's League
21 Games, with a playoff berth(s) eligibility
12 Teams 1:45 PM Draw
- Draw times alternate 6:15 & 8:30 PM
Beginner to Intermediate League - includes 21 games per season.
Membership and League Fee Information
Back by Popular Demand!! Endeavour Brewing Co 6-Pack Open Fun League - 6 games! 6 people! 6 ends! ... and 6 beverages from the bar! You can alternate players between ends for extra fun (only 4 players on the ice at a time please), or bring the kids and take turns watching them upstairs. Non-competitive Open League (no gender restrictions) perfect for novices or those who have some curling experience. Great for date night... a social outing to kick start your weekend. No sparing restrictions - register up to 6 people, but you can allow anyone to spare if you can't make it (they must be registered spares or members). Alternating times with Friday night mixed. 6 games - no playoffs. We run 3 of these 6-packs back-to-back, so you can get a full season in if you'd like to extend the fun!
This session will run Fridays from Oct 18 - Nov 22. Times alternating between 6:30 & 8:30pm. One - 6 beverage bar card for each registered player.
Back by Popular Demand!! Endeavour Brewing Co 6-Pack Open Fun League - 6 games! 6 people! 6 ends! ... and 6 beverages from the bar! You can alternate players between ends for extra fun (only 4 players on the ice at a time please), or bring the kids and take turns watching them upstairs. Non-competitive Open League (no gender restrictions) perfect for novices or those who have some curling experience. Great for date night... a social outing to kick start your weekend. No sparing restrictions - register up to 6 people, but you can allow anyone to spare if you can't make it (they must be registered spares or members). Alternating times with Friday night mixed. 6 games - no playoffs. We run 3 of these 6-packs back-to-back, so you can get a full season in if you'd like to extend the fun!
This session will run Fridays - Nov 29, Dec 6, 13, Jan 3, 17, 24. Times alternating between 6:30 & 8:30pm. One - 6 beverage bar card for each registered player.
Back by Popular Demand!! Endeavour Brewing Co 6-Pack Open Fun League - 6 games! 6 people! 6 ends! ... and 6 beverages from the bar! You can alternate players between ends for extra fun (only 4 players on the ice at a time please), or bring the kids and take turns watching them upstairs. Non-competitive Open League (no gender restrictions) perfect for novices or those who have some curling experience. Great for date night... a social outing to kick start your weekend. No sparing restrictions - register up to 6 people, but you can allow anyone to spare if you can't make it (they must be registered spares or members). Alternating times with Friday night mixed. 6 games - no playoffs. We run 3 of these 6-packs back-to-back, so you can get a full season in if you'd like to extend the fun!
This session will run Fridays from Feb 7 – Mar 14. Times alternating between 6:30 & 8:30pm. One - 6 beverage bar card for each registered player.
Back by Popular Demand!! Corkbeard Wine Straight 8 Open Fun League - 8 games! 6 people! 6 ends! and 8 beverages from the bar! You can alternate players between ends for extra fun (only 4 players on the ice at a time please), or bring the kids and take turns watching them upstairs. Non-competitive Open League (no gender restrictions) perfect for novices or those who have some curling experience. Great for date night... off the ice just in time to enjoy a beverage and fantastic food from Mama M's Concession! No sparing restrictions - register up to 6 people, but you can allow anyone to spare if you can't make it (they must be registered spares or members). 4:30pm - 8 games - no playoffs. We will run 2 of these 8-packs, one in the fall and one after Christmas, so you can get a full season in if you'd like to extend the fun!
This session will run Saturdays from Oct 14 - Dec 2 at 4:30pm. Includes one - 8 beverage bar card for each registered player.
Back by Popular Demand!! Corkbeard Wine Straight 8 Open Fun League - 8 games! 6 people! 6 ends! and 8 beverages from the bar! You can alternate players between ends for extra fun (only 4 players on the ice at a time please), or bring the kids and take turns watching them upstairs. Non-competitive Open League (no gender restrictions) perfect for novices or those who have some curling experience. Great for date night... off the ice just in time to enjoy a beverage and fantastic food from Mama M's Concession! No sparing restrictions - register up to 6 people, but you can allow anyone to spare if you can't make it (they must be registered spares or members). 4:30pm - 8 games - no playoffs. We will run 2 of these 8-packs, one in the fall and one after Christmas, so you can get a full season in if you'd like to extend the fun!
This session will run Saturdays from Jan 13 (no curling Jan 20, Feb 3/24) to March 16 at 4:30pm. Includes one - 8 beverage bar card for each registered player.
Open Fun League!
Abbreviated season - 10 Games PLUS Pre-Season Learn to Curl Clinic.
Saturdays 2:00-4:00pm
CLINIC: Oct 19, 2024
GAMES: Oct 26, Nov 2, 16, 30, Dec 14, Jan 4, 25, Feb 8, Mar 1, 15, 2025
50+ Mixed - Monday 9:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw time: 9:00am
Register online as individual. Indicate your preferred position. League Director will make up teams. Open Mixed Format
50+ Mixed - Monday 9:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw time: 9:00am
Register online as individual. Indicate your preferred position. League Director will make up teams. Open mixed format
50+ Mixed - Monday 11:30 am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw time: 11:30 am
Register online as individual. Indicate your preferred position. League Director will make up teams. Open Mixed format
50+ Mixed - Monday 11:30 am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw time: 11:30 am
Register online as individual. Indicate your preferred position. League Director will make up teams. Open mixed format
50+ MIXED - Wednesday 9:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
Register online as individual. League Directors will make up teams. open mixed format
50+ MIXED - Wednesday 9:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
Register online as individual. League Directors will make up teams. Open mixed format
50+ MIXED - Wednesday 11:30am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 11:30 am
Register online as individual. League Directors will make up teams. Open Mixed format
50+ MIXED - Wednesday 11:30am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 11:30 am
Register online as individual. League Directors will make up teams. Open Mixed format
50+ STICK Tuesday 9:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK Tuesday 9:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Tuesday 10:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Tuesday 10:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
50+ STICK - Tuesday 11:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 11:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Tuesday 11:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 11:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ LADIES STICK - Thursday 9:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person LADIES Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ LADIES STICK - Thursday 9:00 am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person LADIES Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Team registration.
50+ OPEN STICK - Thursday 10:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
50+ OPEN STICK - Thursday 10:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ OPEN STICK - Thursday 11:15am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 11:15 am
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ OPEN STICK - Thursday 11:15am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 11:15 am
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
NEW Stick League added!
Fixed Draw Time: 12:15pm
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
NEW Stick League added!
Fixed Draw Time: 12:15pm
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
NEW Stick League added!
Fixed Draw Time: 1:15pm
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
NEW Stick League added!
Fixed Draw Time: 1:15pm
2 - Person Open Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 9:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 9:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 9:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 10:00am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 10:00am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 10:00 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 11:30am OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 11:30 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 11:30am JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 11:30 am
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 12:30 pm OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 12:30 pm
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 12:30 pm JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 12:30 pm
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 1:30 pm OCT - DEC
Fixed Draw Time: 1:30 pm
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
50+ STICK - Friday 1:30 pm JAN - MAR
Fixed Draw Time: 1:30 pm
2 - Person Stick League. 6 rocks - 6 ends. Approximately 1 hour playing time.
More Information about the game & rules at: Canadian Stick Curling Association.
Register as a team
NEW!! Starting this year, we will be implementing Curling Canada's ROCKSTARS Awards Program! The Green Program will be working in the FUNdamentals series, and will strive to earn their Red and Blue levels and be awarded a STAR for their new Bag Tag!
TEAM FORMAT!! Participants will register for the season in teams of 4. This allows youth to choose their own teammates from friends, family or kids they played with from from last season. Cost includes a team hoodie - teams will choose their own colour, with their team name and player name on the back! You do not need to have all 4 players to get started - Anyone requiring a team, or requiring players for their team are encouraged to register now. New members can be added to your team at any time.
One parent from each team will be required to be on the ice each week to help support the instructions given by the head coach. Team parents will need to work out this rotation amongst themselves - no one from the team will be allowed on the ice without their parent volunteer.
Pre-season, Parent/Volunteer Clinics (with a light approach to the game!) are being offered free-of-charge to parents prior to the start of the league. Sign up for the clinic in the registration field. Pizza and beverage included.
Ages 8-10
Time: 1:00pm - 2:15 pm
Dates: Sundays – starts Oct 6 with a Clinic - Mar 16, 2025
15 sessions plus pre-season Clinic and end of season Family Fun Spiel.
Program: Weekly instruction & practice followed by a short break & fun games.
Cost: $235.00 + GST includes Team Hoodie.
Equipment: For safety, each curler will receive 1 shoe gripper with their registration. They will be required to bring their own broom. Brooms are available at an additional, but reasonable cost, from the SACC Pro Shop. Curlers must bring clean, indoor shoes for on the ice and dress in layers of loose fitting clothing for the cooler arena conditions.
There will be NO Sunday curling on the following dates: Oct 13, Nov 10, Dec 15, 22, 29, Jan 12, 19, Feb 16
Time: 2:30pm – 4:30pm
NEW!! Starting this year, we will be implementing Curling Canada's ROCKSTARS Awards Program! The Blue Program will be following the FUNdamentals and Learn to Train programs, and will strive to earn their Red and Blue, and Silver and Gold levels and be awarded a STAR for their new Bag Tag!
TEAM FORMAT!! Participants will register for the season in teams of 4, This allows youth to choose their own teammates from friends, family or kids they played with from their sheet assignments from last season. Cost includes a team hoodie - teams will choose their own colour, with their team name and player name on the back! You do not need to have all 4 players to get started - Anyone requiring a team, or requiring players for their team are encouraged to register now. New members can be added to your team at any time.
One parent from each team will be required to be on the ice each week to help support the instructions given by the head coach. Team parents will need to work out this rotation amongst themselves - no one from the team will be allowed on the ice without their parent volunteer. Pre-season, Parent/Volunteer Clinics (with a light approach to the game!) are being offered free-of-charge to parents prior to the start of the league. Sign up for the clinic in the registration field. Pizza and beverage included.
Time: 2:30-4:30 pm
Dates: Sundays – starts Oct 6 with a Clinic - Mar 16, 2025
15 sessions plus pre-season Clinic and end of season Family Fun Spiel.
Program: Weekly instruction & practice followed by a short break & fun games.
Cost: $325.00.00 + GST includes Team Hoodie.
Equipment: For safety, each curler will receive 1 shoe gripper with their registration. They will be required to bring their own broom. Brooms are available at an additional, but reasonable cost, from the SACC Pro Shop. Curlers must bring clean, indoor shoes for on the ice and dress in layers of loose fitting clothing for the cooler arena conditions.
There will be NO Sunday curling on the following dates: Oct 13, Nov 10, Dec 15, 22, 29, Jan 12, 19, Feb 16
Thursday after school 4:00-6:00pm with 4 Tuesdays (4:00-5:00 or 5:00-6:00pm) per season included. Junior Gold offers participants ages 12-16 the opportunity for personalized instruction with a certified instructor and/or Elite Curling athlete.
Dates: Starts Oct 17 - Mar 13, 2025 (No curling Dec 19, 26, Jan 2, 30)
18 sessions plus 4 semi-private lessons on Tuesdays (sign-up for Tuesdays wll be sent out prior to the season starting).
Equipment: For safety, each curler will be required to bring their own broom. Brooms are available at an additional, but reasonable cost, from the SACC Pro Shop. Curlers must bring clean, indoor shoes for on the ice, or preferably curling shoes, and dress in layers of loose fitting clothing for the cooler arena conditions.
Program: Minimum 30 minutes of instruction with a Certified Instructor and/or Elite Athlete followed by a game*.
Cost: $465.00 + GST includes hoodie!
*Note* More emphasis and time will be given to delivery, sweeping and positional play development early in the season with teamwork, strategy and game play in the latter part.
2024-2025 Season
We are thrilled to announce that our STAJED for Success Program will be offered again for the 2024-25 season! This program provides young curlers who’s focus is on competitive curling, either as a team or an individual, with a unique opportunity to receive dryland and on-ice training geared towards developing the whole athlete. Certified Head Coach Taina Smiley, along with experienced competitive curler Braden Pelech provide exceptional instruction for the program. Our program also offers the use of Smart Brooms (digitized training brooms), and speed traps (RockHawk), along with video analysis, as part of the curriculum. Marc Kennedy and Mental Sports Performance Consultant Erin Brennan, will be regular guest coaches. Professional Fitness Instructors provide our physical training portion, and we periodically have special guest appearances from World Class Curling Athletes. The program will run after school on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This program does not include regular league play.
Program Overview
Dates: 4:30pm – 7:00pm Tuesdays and Thursdays – Start date is Sept 19 to March 13 (46 dates/season). Practice ice will be available on Sept 17 from 4:30-6:00pm for the STAJED athletes. On-ice training will begin Thurs, Sept 19. No classes Dec 24, 26, 31, Jan 2, 30
Curling Program: Athletes can expect to spend the first 1.5 hours of each day on the ice with time split between technical or tactical/situations or drills. The remainder of the time (1 hour) will be spent on dryland - in the classroom (Thursdays) and for fitness training with Robin Mungall, our certified trainer - (Tuesdays - see info below). In the Classroom, our coaches will lead the class on a variety of topics including, but not limited to, mental skills, team dynamics, nutrition, tactics & strategy.
Fitness Program: Most of the fitness will be done via video (using an App) from home with provided equipment, with 4 in-studio sessions with Robin through the season. The fitness program focuses on specific elements to maximize the athlete’s game, reduce risks of chronic injuries as well as improve overall fitness for life. Those key elements are:
- Core stability
- Balance
- Leg power
- Upper body power endurance
- Joint mobility and care
Cost: $1060/season +GST. In order to hold your spot for the 2024-25 season, a $100 non- refundable payment is required by August 1st, 2024. Registration for the Waitlist to open thereafter. A 4-payment plan is available online, or if you are interested in montly payments, please contact the office.
Includes: 46 Sessions of Instruction, Program Hoodies, Journals, written year-end evaluation, and 2 Social Events.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
NEW! Saturday Open Stick! Intrigued by the stick game? Here is your chance to play the game - no age or gender restrictions. 2 person stick games - 6 rocks and 6 ends takes 1 hour to play. Team Entries only. 3 timeslots available - Saturday Morning 10am, 11am, noon - no age or gender restrictions (and you can throw from the hack if you want, instead of with a stick). 2 person stick rules apply. Limited sweeping. Fall & Winter intake. 8 games per session.
Back by Popular Demand! Jitney OPEN FUN League!
8 games - 6 Ends - 8 Beverages from the Bar! Make new friends! This is a perfect league to join if you are new to curling and don't have a team. Individual registration and you'll play on a different team / different position every week - this will give you an all around experience of curling.
The league starts on October 23 the first session running as a clinic to familiarize yourself with the game play. From there the sessions will run every Wednesday until December 11th alternating times between 6:00pm and 8:15pm each week. Check the calendar for times.
One - 8 beverage bar card included for each registered player. $210 per person
Back by Popular Demand! Jitney OPEN FUN League!
8 games - 6 Ends - 8 Beverages from the Bar! Make new friends! This is a perfect league to join if you are new to curling and don't have a team. Individual registration and you'll play on a different team / different position every week - this will give you an all around experience of curling.
The league starts on Jan 8th the first session running as a clinic to familiarize yourself with the game play. From there the sessions will run every Wednesday until Feb 26th alternating times between 6:00pm and 8:15pm each week. Check the calendar for times.
One - 8 beverage bar card included for each registered player. $210 per person
NEW! This 16 week "Getting Started for Adults Program" is for the beginner with no experience, or the novice with a basic understanding of the game wishing to improve their skills. This enhanced program includes full membership benefits and will have paid instructors with a tried and tested curriculum that will cover all aspects of the game. The first 8 weeks will focus on delivery, sweeping and rules of the game. The remaining 8 weeks will be game play with instructors providing support with rules, strategy and technical cues to help develop you further.
You will need to bring curling shoes, or clean indoor running shoes that you can reserve only for curling. Wear loose fitting layers for warmth (no jeans). Curling gloves are recommended or a non slip glove would suffice. We have a good selection in our pro-shop. We will provide brooms and other equipment if you don't have your own. In the 3rd or 4th week we will have an equipment session where we can show you what is available and what you need (or don't need) when you are ready to purchase your own.
Don't forget to reserve time to socialize in our upstairs lounge after the game (safe distancing of course!) - it's an important part of the sport, and a chance to meet new people.
Sign up as an individual - and you can indicate who you would like to play with if you are bringing friends or family along!
Wednesdays - 2 hours, alternating 6:00 & 8:15pm draw times. Start date Oct 23, at 6:00pm. Cost $350.00. Money back guarantee! If you decide within the first 2 weeks that this isn't for you, we will refund your money!